Isma vs. The Mouse: Talking Star Wars EU with O.G. Star Wars
What happens when a lifelong Star Wars nerd sits down with another die-hard fan to talk Expanded Universe, mythic storytelling, and the Great Disney Divide? You get a 1.5–2 hour rollercoaster of banter, collectibles, quiz questions, and spicy takes. On October 13, 2025, "Nerdmigos" creator Isma (aka Ismael Alejandro Moreno Ozuna) joined O.G. Star Wars on her “Talking E.U.” livestream—and it was glorious.
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Grab your blue milk and settle in.
Highlights from the Galactic Banter
🚀 Isma’s Star Wars Origin Story
- First memory: Watching The Empire Strikes Back as a kid in Mexico. Darth Vader = nightmare fuel. Hoth battle = unforgettable.
- No memory of A New Hope (weird flex, but okay).
- Ranks the movies like this:
- Empire Strikes Back (emotional depth)
- A New Hope (tight storytelling)
- Revenge of the Sith
- Tie: Phantom Menace & Return of the Jedi
- Attack of the Clones (sorry, not sorry)
- Favorite character: Darth Vader/Anakin—because tragic cautionary tales are kind of his thing. His fall from grace and redemption arc embody the mythic heart of Star Wars.
📚 Enter the Expanded Universe (EU)
- First EU love: Shadows of the Empire—comics, toys, soundtrack, video game. Basically a multimedia buffet that filled the gap between Empire and Jedi.
- Also obsessed with Genndy Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars micro-series: minimal dialogue, maximum mythic vibes. Think silent film meets space opera.
- Sees the EU not as a sandbox, but as a sacred myth machine. Think Joseph Campbell, not fanfic free-for-all. Thematic consistency > endless content.
🧘♂️ Prequels, Fandom, and Jedi Philosophy
- Phantom Menace gets props for setting up Anakin’s fall and introducing Qui-Gon Jinn, the Jedi who actually gets it. He’s the “what could’ve been” of the Jedi Order.
- The Clone Wars animated series? Mixed feelings. Early seasons = Lucas gold. Later seasons = “Wait, why is Maul still here?”
- Asajj Ventress and Ahsoka? Cool characters, but their arcs sometimes feel like they wandered off the mythic map. Ventress shines brightest in the micro-series and comics.
🖤 Favorite EU Deep Cuts
- MVP: Asajj Ventress. Her duel with Anakin on Yavin 4? Chef’s kiss. Her tattoos, tragic backstory, and Sith apprenticeship highlight the toxic Rule of Two.
- Wants more stories about post-redemption Vader—how the galaxy and his family react—and deeper dives into Qui-Gon’s philosophy.
- Recommended reads:
- Truce at Bakura & Tatooine Ghost (Leia’s emotional arc and forgiveness)
- The Black Fleet Crisis (Luke gets introspective and questions his path)
- Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader (Vader’s awkward phase adjusting to the suit and his new reality)
- Star Wars: Republic comics (Ventress & Qui-Gon backstories by Ostrander and Duursema)
- Disney tossed the EU like yesterday’s blue milk. Not cool. Disney threw away the compass (Lucas' original vision). The EU was the map.
- Lucas’s sequel ideas? Ignored. His mythic vision? MIA.
- Instead of mythic melodrama, we got genre roulette (Andor = space drama, The Mandalorian = western, The Acolyte = TBD). Disney Star Wars = Genre Transplants Galore.
- Lucas’s constant tinkering (hello, Special Editions) wasn’t indecision—it was artistic evolution. He had final say over EU content, keeping it aligned with his vision.
🧠 Fandom, Collecting, and Cultural Context
- Growing up in Mexico meant watching subtitled/dubbed versions and hunting down VHS tapes from across the border. Pan-and-scan vs. widescreen was a real debate.
- Collecting wasn’t just about toys—it was about expanding the lore. Think Heir to the Empire, The Magic of Myth, The Annotated Screenplays, and novelizations.
- Post-Disney, there’s a renewed hunger for the EU’s rich continuity and character arcs. Fans are rediscovering the depth and heart of Lucas-era storytelling.
- Call to action: Dive into the EU and support fan-driven projects like Nerdmigos and O.G. Star Wars to keep Lucas-era Star Wars alive—especially for Spanish-speaking and Native American fans who rarely see themselves represented in mainstream canon.
Final Thoughts: Myth Over Mouse
This convo wasn’t just a nostalgia trip—it was a love letter to the EU as a continuous, mythic story that respects Lucas’s original vision. If you’re tired of Star Wars feeling like a genre buffet, this livestream might just reignite your Jedi spark.
Meet the Host & Guest
🧘♀️ O.G. Star Wars Artist, yoga teacher, jingle dancer, and lore guardian. Her channel is a deep dive into the George Lucas Era—debunking myths, comparing canons, and preserving the EU for future generations. 🔗 Check out her channel: https://www.youtube.com/@OGStarwars
🎙️ Ismael Alejandro Moreno Ozuna (IAMO) Cartoonist, character designer, podcast producer, and creator of Nerdmigos—a Spanish-language webcomic and podcast celebrating geek culture since 2009. Also the founder of Sketchbook Club Tijuana, a creative haven for artists. 🔗 Explore Nerdmigos for more geeky goodness!
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